As horrifically previewed, Fox News aired Megyn Kelly’s interview with Jessa and Jill Duggar last night. Having watched Part 1 – featuring a creepy tour de force of denial by Jim-Bob and Michelle Duggar – I have to say Part 2 wasn’t as bad. It was still pretty awful though. Let’s go through some of the most disturbing and noteworthy moments:

The sisters confirmed their ages when the molestation occurred. Jill was 12, Jessa says she was “9 or 10.”

Josh was “curious”. Jessa explained/diminished the escalation of molestation over the course of a year as “Josh was a boy, a young boy in puberty and a little too curious about girls. And that got him into some trouble. And he made some bad choices, but, really, the extent of it was mild – inappropriate touching on fully clothed victims, most of it while [the] girls were sleeping.” Again, I’m extremely curious about the “most of it” claim.

Josh was “sly” and “subtle”. Jessa said: “He knew in his mind, ‘My actions are wrong and I have bad intentions,’ but he was very sly. Like the girls didn’t catch on. It was like, okay, if you catch the girl sleeping a quick feel or whatever…It was very subtle.” This was easily one of the most disturbing moments.

The safeguards. Jim-Bob and Michelle had previously mentioned that they set up “safeguards” to prevent Josh from molesting his sisters, and Jill and Jessa back up their parents’ story. Jill said: “My parents said, ‘Okay, we’re not going to do this hide-and-seek thing where two people go off and hide together.’ [They put] locks on the doors… You know, everybody’s in bed. Girls in the girls’ room. Boys in the boys’ room … as a mother now I look back, and I think, you know, my parents did such an amazing job for me.” The sisters gloss over the fact that these safeguards were put into place because Josh was molesting them repeatedly over the course of a year, and that even with the “safeguards” in place, he was still abusing them. The sisters also don’t seem to realize that they were being taught not to be molestation-bait for a predator rather than their parents dealing directly with Josh’s actions.

The definition of slander. The whole family needs to look it up, because “slander” does not mean what they think it means. If the Duggars sue, those depositions are going to be especially crazy.

Jessa and Jill blame In Touch Weekly for exploiting them. Megyn Kelly is obsessed with this and the Duggars are still lying. Jessa and Jill repeatedly refer to their family’s full compliance with the investigation lead by the Department of Human Services, but those are not the records given to In Touch Weekly through the FOIA requests. In Touch got their hands on the two separate law enforcement investigations, and both of those investigations were public record and the FOIA requests were completely above-board. The sisters claim that In Touch “exploited” them and hurt them more than Josh ever did. That is… an odd claim, especially since In Touch never named them and Fox News sent out the press release confirming Jessa and Jill as Josh’s victims. It’s also odd considering their parents exploited them repeatedly.

An academic says Josh “probably” isn’t a predator anymore. Megyn Kelly has an agenda and she sticks to it! She’s hellbent on proving that Josh is totally fine now and that of course his loosey-goosey Christian “therapy” worked, so Kelly brought in an academic to “prove” it. You know what would have been even better? Talking to Josh directly instead of allowing Josh’s victims to be used as a human shield to protect and enable the criminal acts of their brother and their parents.

Jessa and Jill don’t care if TLC cancels the show. Which… I mean, sure. At this point, the TLC thing is only one small part of this overall horror show.

Photos courtesy of the Duggars’ social media.