Bob Igor is Disney’s CEO. He was CEO for fifteen years before stepping down in late 2021, then he returned as CEO in November 2022. Iger’s reclaiming of the CEO’s desk came with a $15 million pay package, with bonus targets for up to $27 million for just 2023. Iger’s return was supposed to be a temporary thing, a bridge to help Disney find a more modern (and younger) CEO. Instead, just a few days ago, Disney announced that Iger was staying on until 2026, presumably under a comparable salary and compensation package which would see him making (again) around $27 million a year (probably much more). Disney has also laid off thousands of employees in recent months. Well, wouldn’t you know, Bob Iger has some thoughts on the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes.
During an appearance on CNBC’s “Squawk Box” on Thursday morning, Disney CEO Bob Iger said that the writers and actors unions going on strike in Hollywood are not being “realistic” with their expectations. Speaking to CNBC’s David Faber from the Sun Valley Conference in Idaho, Iger commented on the ongoing Writers Guild of America strike and imminent decision for SAG-AFTRA to join them.
“It’s very disturbing to me. We’ve talked about disruptive forces on this business and all the challenges we’re facing, the recovery from COVID which is ongoing, it’s not completely back. This is the worst time in the world to add to that disruption,” Iger said. “I understand any labor organization’s desire to work on behalf of its members to get the most compensation and be compensated fairly based on the value that they deliver. We managed, as an industry, to negotiate a very good deal with the directors guild that reflects the value that the directors contribute to this great business. We wanted to do the same thing with the writers, and we’d like to do the same thing with the actors. There’s a level of expectation that they have, that is just not realistic. And they are adding to the set of the challenges that this business is already facing that is, quite frankly, very disruptive.”
Iger said that while he respects the right of the unions to “get as much as they possibly can in compensation for their people,” they must “be realistic about the business environment, and what this business can deliver.”
Iger continued, “It will have a very, very damaging affect on the whole business, and unfortunately, there’s huge collateral damage in the industry to people who are supportive services, and I could go on and on. It will affect the economy of different regions, even, because of the sheer size of the business. It’s a shame, it is really a shame.”
I do think that the strikes will damage the film and television industry and there will be a ripple effect of global disruptions to business-as-usual for these corporations…and that’s the f–king point. Strikes are not meant to be convenient or timed around what’s best for a business model which exploits workers. Basically, this is a CEO raking in an eight-figure annual salary, blaming working actors and writers for wanting to be fairly compensated for their work. Period. Considering the way Disney openly screws over their talent – Scarlett Johansson had to sue Disney for breach of contract AND THEY PUBLICLY SMEARED HER – Bob Iger needs to shut his f–king mouth about all of this.
Disney CEO Bob Iger, who makes $27 million a year, went to TV to say that writers and actors aren’t being realistic with their demands.
When asked why these workers are being unrealistic he says, “I can’t, I can’t answer that.” pic.twitter.com/mOhhqjcDOA
— More Perfect Union (@MorePerfectUS) July 13, 2023
The fact that Bob Iger gave an anti-labor interview while he is reportedly having a 2nd yacht constructed to replace his 184 foot super yacht might be the most on brand CEO shit of the year.
— C. Robert Cargill (@Massawyrm) July 13, 2023
Fran Drescher is president of SAG-AFTRA and I’m not sure if her union members voted for her, believing that she had the stones to go toe-to-toe with the studios and AMPTP. Well, she did. She entered the negotiations in good faith in recent weeks/months, truly hoping that a deal could be made to avoid a SAG-AFTRA strike. AMPTP even brought in federal mediators, I guess as an intimidation tactic to strong-arm SAG into taking a terrible deal. Drescher had the stones to walk away and she called for the strike on Thursday. She gave a barn-burner of a speech announcing it too:
Variety transcribed her speech – go here to read it. She sounded a lot like a working-class union leader, speaking about how the CEOs and Wall Street get greedy and forget about all of the labor they are exploiting. She also said, in part:
“We have a problem, and we are experiencing that right at this moment. This is a very seminal hour for us. I went in in earnest thinking that we would be able to avert a strike. The gravity of this move is not lost on me, or our negotiating committee, or our board members. It’s a very serious thing that impacts thousands, if not millions, of people all across this country and around the world — not only members of this union, but people who work in other industries.
“And so it came with great sadness that we came to this crossroads. But we had no choice. We are the victims here. We are being victimized by a very greedy entity. I am shocked by the way the people that we have been in business with are treating us. I cannot believe it, quite frankly: How far apart we are on so many things. How they plead poverty, that they’re losing money left and right when giving hundreds of millions of dollars to their CEOs. It is disgusting. Shame on them.
“They stand on the wrong side of history at this very moment. We stand in solidarity, in unprecedented unity. Our union and our sister unions and the unions around the world are standing by us, as well as other labor unions. Because at some point, the jig is up. You cannot keep being dwindled and marginalized and disrespected and dishonored. The entire business model has been changed by streaming, digital, AI.
“This is a moment of history and is a moment of truth. If we don’t stand tall right now, we are all going to be in trouble. We are all going to be in jeopardy of being replaced by machines and big business who cares more about Wall Street than you and your family. Most of Americans don’t have more than $500 in case of an emergency. This is a very big deal, and it weighed heavy on us. But at some point you have to say, ‘No, we’re not going to take this anymore. You people are crazy. What are you doing? Why are you doing this?’
From what I’m seeing on Twitter, the AI stuff is completely bonkers – AMPTP wanted to scan background actors and create AI images of those actors in perpetuity, all while only paying the original background actors for one day of work. In addition to that, none of the streaming companies want the WGA or SAG-AFTRA to sniff around their in-house streaming numbers. Unlike broadcast television, there’s no neutral third-party with the capability to track viewership numbers or “streams,” so for companies like Netflix, Hulu, Paramount, Disney+, they all basically self-report… to their investors. There’s no mechanism for actors and writers to say “hey, my show had 300 million streams, can I be paid more than scale with no residuals?” Anyway, power to the people.
This year’s Wimbledon has been pretty exciting. The tennis has been great, especially on the women’s side. Ukrainian Elina Svitolina returned from maternity leave and went on a tear, picking up a title on clay, making the French Open quarterfinals and the Wimbledon semifinals, defeating the WTA #1 along the way. Ons Jabeur, a Tunisian, ran through the #2 and #3 players back-to-back – she defeated Russian-born Elena Rybakina (the reigning Wimbledon champion) in the QFs and Belarusian Aryna Sabalenka in a barn-burner semifinal. The women’s finalists are Marketa Vondrousova (a tricky Czech lefty) vs. Ons Jabeur.
So, THAT is the story – the tennis itself, the amazing performances of several women who raised their levels, battled through and played lights-out. That’s not how the British media has framed any of these stories though – they’ve made it all about the players’ nationalities and whether or not the Princess of Wales would be “embarrassed” to hand the trophy or plate to a Russian or Belarusian player. As I’ve said before, Kensington Palace should have shut down this story a long time ago. Instead, the royal patron of the Championships has avoided Wimbledon throughout the fortnight (except for her appearance alongside Roger Federer) and allowed the narrative to be solely framed as “Kate is much too delicate and precious to be around certain nationalities!” From the Mail:
The Princess of Wales has been saved from having to present a Wimbledon trophy to a Belarusian player linked to a key supporter of the war in Ukraine. Aryna Sabalenka, 25, who has been photographed hugging Russian president Vladimir Putin’s closest ally Alexander Lukashenko, was knocked out of the tournament yesterday. But there was also heartbreak for Ukrainian wildcard Elina Svitolina, 28, as her fairytale run ended in a straight set loss.
Their defeats ended the prospect of the ladies’ final tomorrow seeing a Ukrainian face a Belarusian in what would have been a highly-charged match.
All eyes are now on Spanish hunk Carlos Alcaraz today as he takes on Daniil Medvedev, the last Russian standing at Wimbledon, for a place in the men’s final. Alcaraz, a 20-year-old prodigy, is favourite to take down the 6ft 6in world number three and prevent Kate having to be photographed with an athlete from an aggressor nation.
The princess presents the winners’ trophies, and having to hand one to a Belarusian or Russian would prove a diplomatic embarrassment for Britain.
Deep sigh – “having to hand one to a Belarusian or Russian would prove a diplomatic embarrassment for Britain.” She literally handed the Venus Rosewater Dish to a Russian last year, you fools. Granted, I’m not minimizing the charged political atmosphere of a potential final between a Ukrainian and a Belarusian. But it didn’t happen, and it’s bizarre to see the situation framed as “thank god, Kate doesn’t have to stand next to Aryna Sabalenka!”
Anyway, good luck to Ons Jabeur and good luck to Daniil Medvedev. I absolutely want a Russian player in the men’s final.
Understatement: the @wimbledon organizers are not eager for the optics of Princess of Wales presenting the trophy to a player from Belarus. (Nor of a Ukrainian and Belarusian playing a final and declining to pose together before the prematch coin toss, etc.) #Wimbledon
— Jon Wertheim (@jon_wertheim) July 12, 2023
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Remember last year when Ryan Reynolds filmed his colonoscopy to raise awareness for colon screenings? He and his Wrexham AFC co-owner, Rob McElhenney, bet each other that they couldn’t learn Welsh (Wrexham is in Wales), with a filmed colonoscopy on the line. Well, now Rob is going public with another personal health moment, tweeting this week that he was “recently diagnosed with a host of neurodevelopmental disorders and learning disabilities! At 46!” The exclamation points tickle me. He’s a comedy guy and it’s a great way to own the story. And just like Ryan’s colonoscopy, where altruism was snuck in under the cover of humor, so it is here, with Rob noting that he’s sharing the news for all the people who also have similar diagnoses that they’re not dumb and they’re not alone:
Rob McElhenney is opening up about his new diagnosis of “neurodevelopmental disorders and learning disabilities.”
The It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia star, 46, shared the news on Twitter on Tuesday and admitted he was revealing his diagnosis to remind others that they’re “not alone.”
“I was recently diagnosed with a host of neurodevelopmental disorders and learning disabilities! At 46!” he wrote. The Wrexham AFC co-owner then went on to explain that he will go through “the full diagnosis/prognosis” on The Always Sunny Podcast in two weeks’ time.
He continued, “It’s not something I would normally talk about publicly but I figured there are others who struggle with similar things and I wanted to remind you that you’re not alone. You’re not stupid. You’re not ‘bad’. It might feel that way sometimes. But it’s not true :).”
McElhenney’s tweet was met with a positive response from his 1.1 million Twitter followers, with many thanking the star, who is married to his It’s Always Sunny costar Kaitlin Olson, for being open about his diagnosis.
“So amazing Rob, thank you for sharing and helping thousands who may be struggling,” wrote one fan, while another added, “Thank you for being so open and honest. Looking forward to listening to the podcast.”
According to Mayo Clinic, a learning disability is “present when the brain takes in and works with information in a way that is not typical. It keeps a person from learning a skill and using it well.”
“It keeps a person from learning a skill and using it well.” Rob McElhenney has created and costarred in two comedy series–It’s Always Sunny and Mythic Quest–that are still running (well, when once-in-every-60-years double-union strikes aren’t happening). He is co-owner of the Welsh football team (soccer, for us Americans) Wrexham AFC that he and Ryan Reynolds have shepherded into a boon time–the team has rejoined the English league after not qualifying for 15 years and its value has increased by 300% since Rob & Ryan took over in 2020. In his personal life, Rob has been happily married to wife and costar Kaitlin Olson for almost 15 years and they share two sons.
Yeah, I’d be adding an exclamation point to that tweet too.
I was recently diagnosed with a host of neurodevelopmental disorders and learning disabilities! At 46!
I go through the full diagnosis/prognosis on the @thesunnypodcast (which drops in 2 weeks)
It’s not something I would normally talk about publicly but I figured there are…
— Rob McElhenney (@RMcElhenney) July 11, 2023
This story is such a delightful gift as we close out the workweek. What an embarrassment of riches. Jason Momoa’s hotness precedes him and transcends any garment he wears. But my interest was immediately piqued when I saw the word “loincloth” in this story from People (I am only human). In the latest issue of People, he’s interviewed about hosting Shark Week, which we covered yesterday, and how he feels about wearing the malo, a traditional loincloth. He’s wearing it a lot on his upcoming series Chief of War for Apple TV+, which takes place in 18th century Hawaii. For Jason, wearing a malo has helped him reconnect with his culture. He understands why people take notice when he does, but he wears them because he feels at home in them.
For Jason Momoa, nothing tops the feeling of wearing a malo, the traditional Hawaiian loincloth that leaves little to the imagination.
“I feel very beautiful in them, and it’s just something that just feels natural,” he says in the new issue of PEOPLE.
Momoa — who is hosting Discovery Channel’s Shark Week in July — has spent the past several months in New Zealand wearing a malo while filming the upcoming Apple TV+ series Chief of War, set in 18th-century Hawaii.
The actor, himself a Hawaii native, says making the series — which he co-created and stars in — helped him “reconnect” with his culture.
“It goes to many different things, not just wearing a malo, but it’s such an honor to wear a malo,” he says. “So I look at it in a totally different way that maybe the world looks at it.”
“It gets a lot of attention,” he continues, “but it’s something that is just for me, personal.”
Momoa has posted to social media several photos and videos of himself wearing the malo, and he says it’s about to get even more mainstream, thanks to Chief of War.
“You better get used to it,” he warns playfully, “because it’s going to be on billboards, and it’s going to be all over. If you think I posted something that was racy — the whole show, everyone’s like that.”
“It’s just a natural, everyday thing,” he adds.
There has never been a more effective advertisement for Apple TV+. In all seriousness, I am excited to watch this show. I get choice paralysis with TV shows but if there’s one thing I can always be persuaded to try out it’s “historical epic with beautiful men in fight scenes.” It’s also always good to see more Indigenous stories out there. In the past, Jason’s posted to his Instagram wearing a malo while talking about his plastic-free bottled water brand, and it definitely made me more *aware* of this brand, called Mananalu. (Stocked at Whole Foods and Sprouts! I looked it up!) Even though he has reasons for wearing a malo that are cultural and personal, he’s clever enough to recognize that he’s going to get a reaction out of people whenever he does, because he is such a beautiful man.
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Every now and then my mother will stop and say, apropos of nothing, “You know, I really thought we would’ve had teleportation by now.” Well Ma, we may not have teleportation, but we do have holograms and they’re causing existential crises for celebrities and their legacies. We heard Dolly Parton chime in last week and she gave it a sweet and folksy no thank you. Now Whoopi Goldberg has weighed in, saying on a recent episode of The View that she’s taken precautions in her will to guard against any hologram of her being made after she’s gone:
Whoopi Goldberg really wants you to know that she does not want to live on in this life as a hologram.
During a discussion about Aretha Franklin’s newly discovered couch-dwelling will papers, the Oscar-winning Ghost actress, Diablo IV video game fanatic, and The View moderator revealed that her own will prevents anyone from making a digital hologram of her likeness after she dies.
“Yeah, no, I don’t want to be a hologram, but that’s been in my will for 15 years,” the 67-year-old cohost said on Wednesday’s episode of the talk show, referring to a celebrity hologram modeled after Whitney Houston.
Cohost Joy Behar then quipped, “No one has really asked me if I want to be a hologram yet,” to which Goldberg replied: “They don’t ask you, that’s the thing. They just do it, and then you go, ‘Hey, isn’t that Tupac? Wait a minute, didn’t Tupac die? What is he doing up on…’ Yeah, see, I don’t want that. It’s a little freaky, creepy.
Alyssa Farah Griffin chimed in to say she thought it was okay if the celebrity’s estate approved of such a move, but Goldberg shut that down, too.
“Yeah, my estate doesn’t want it,” Goldberg said. “My estate wants to be left alone.”
This isn’t the first time Goldberg has revealed the contents of her will on The View. In December 2022, she said that her post-death documents prevent unauthorized biopics about her life.
“They’re not going to make films because in my will it says, ‘Unless you speak to my family, try it.’ Try it,” Goldberg said at the time.
So I’m lucky in that my day job is working with the estate of a dearly-departed entertainer, and I can tell you that this is a hot-button issue right now (holograms, not Whoopi’s will). And for obvious reasons, right? Operating under the assumption that we can’t control anything after we die, the drive then is to preemptively protect yourself from people putting words in your mouth and from being associated with something you don’t sign off on, and naturally all that is amplified in the case of a public figure. Putting explicit instructions in legal writing is necessary–don’t forget how close we came to Justin Timberlake besmirching Prince with a hologram at the 2018 Superbowl Halftime Show. With SAG-AFTRA officially on strike alongside the WGA, and one of the key issues being safeguards against AI, I think we’re going to be hearing a lot of artists talking more openly about this. So I think Whoopi is doing the right thing in spelling out her wishes clearly in her will. That being said, it is pretty hilarious that she’s thinking about keeping other people from maligning her image when she does a heck of a job doing that to herself.
I’ll pretty much believe any conspiracy you’ve got about Robert F. Kennedy Jr’s “presidential campaign” and why he’s running. It’s clear that the man is a total nutjob, but it’s also clear that there are many powerful people backing his whackjob candidacy behind the scenes. And by powerful people, I mean Republican operatives. So give me your best conspiracy! I want to hear it. This honestly reeks of ratf–king, in the same way as Kanye West’s “candidacy” in 2020. In any case, RFK Jr. is doing meetings and dinners with important people in the media world. Which led to this Page Six headline: “Robert F. Kennedy Jr. press dinner explodes in war of words and farting.” I’m mad because I hate RFK Jr. too much to actual enjoy a story about farting.
Page Six regrets to report that a press dinner to boost Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s presidential campaign devolved into a foul bout of screaming and polemic farting on Tuesday night. The White House hopeful attended the affair at Tony’s on the Upper East Side, no doubt hoping to impress on the ladies and gentlemen of the Fourth Estate his worthiness to sit at the very same Oval Office desk once occupied by his late uncle. But a shouting match over climate change broke out between two boisterous old men, sending the evening down an extremely unfortunate path.
The gaseous exchange — to which Page Six bore reluctant witness — began after a guest asked Kennedy, founder of ecological organization Waterkeeper Alliance, about the environment. And it seems that the mere inquiry was enough to set off apparently drunk gossip-columnist-turned-flak Doug Dechert, the host of the event, who became enraged and screamed at the top of his lungs: “The climate hoax!”
Meanwhile, octogenarian art critic Anthony Haden-Guest, who appeared to have been sleeping happily for most of the dinner, was roused by the abrupt rumpus. Haden-Guest suddenly opened his eyes and denounced his longtime pal Dechert, calling him a “miserable blob.” “Shut up!” implored Haden-Guest.
Dechert continued to scream wildly about the climate change “scam” while Haden-Guest peppered him with verbal volleys from across the table, calling him variously “f*cking insane” and “insignificant.”
RFK Jr. meanwhile, a prospective president of the United States, watched calmly on.
Here, it seems, Dechert sensed the need for a new rhetorical tack, and let rip a loud, prolonged fart while yelling, as if to underscore his point, “I’m farting!”
The room, which included a handful of journalists as well as RFK Jr.’s campaign manager, former Rep. Dennis Kucinich, was stunned, seemingly unsure about whether Dechert was farting at Haden-Guest personally or at the very notion of global warming. (Regrettably, we may assure readers that there was no room for doubt that the climate changed in the immediate environs of the dinner table). The candidate maintained a steady composure in the face of the crisis.
Regardless of the political implications, the only thing I enjoy more than a fart story is a story about someone ANNOUNCING that they’re farting. There’s something about someone stopping what they’re doing just so they can focus on letting one rip, whilst simultaneously announcing “I’m farting!” As I get older, I also have to stop what I’m doing so I can focus on the act of breaking wind. Anyway, Robert Kennedy Jr. is a ratf–king Republican stooge and I hate that a small number of people are buying whatever batsh-t lunacy he’s selling.
Clarence Thomas’s assistant got Venmo payments from lawyers who had business in front of the Supreme Court. Impeach this man, Jesus. [Jezebel]
I love the fact that Kieran Culkin is now famous enough to get paid to show up to Tag Heuer boutique openings in NYC. [JustJared]
Review of Mission: Impossible: Revenge of the Colons. [LaineyGossip]
Let’s look at Chanel’s Fall collection. [Tom & Lorenzo]
Why is there so little hype for EL James’s new book? [Pajiba]
This Elie Saab collection is so pretty. [GFY]
A reality star & his influencer wife are expecting. [Starcasm]
I love the Italian pick-pocket screamer lady. [Buzzfeed]
100 million people have signed up for Threads already. I have not. [Towleroad]
Menswear at the London Barbie premiere. IDGAF – they’re just Ken. [RCFA]
Brian Cox has lived in America for many years, mostly to work in American films and television. He’s currently living in Brooklyn, which is apparently the only place in America he enjoys (and even then, not so much). Cox is perpetually grumpy and he’s just a full-time hater, I think that much is clear. Well, Cox decided to chat with Piers Morgan on Morgan’s sad TalkTV show, and the two blowhards decided to complain about woke culture and how wrong it is to “shame” people for being bigots and racists and such. You can see the video here, I’m not embedding it.
Brian Cox is going viral after taking jabs at the notion of “woke culture” during a recent interview with Piers Morgan. Amid the celebration of Succession making history at the Emmy Awards nominations Cox, Kieran Culkin and Jeremy Strong, scoring noms in the Lead Actor category, the interview with the Scottish actor talk about being anti-woke is making the rounds.
“I don’t think social media helps. It hinders, not helps,” Cox said during an appearance on Piers Morgan Uncensored. “I think it points out too readily inadequacies. And the whole woke, what we’ve talked about before, the whole woke culture is truly awful […] and the shaming culture… I don’t know where it comes from. Who are the arbiters of this shaming? And it’s very hard to pin them down, and, it turns out, it’s usually a bunch of millennials. And who gave them the halos? I suppose in a way they’re probably saying, ‘Well you’ve all screwed it up so we may as well do something about it.’ But it’s from the wrong principle. It comes from the wrong place.”
According to Merriam-Webster, being “woke” is being “aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice).”
This is not the first time that Cox has gone onto Morgan’s show to talk about “cancel culture.” In 2022, Cox said, “It’s a kind of modern-day McCarthyism, really. “It’s a kind of raid on people’s sensibilities in order to reduce them and make them… I don’t know, there is so much hypocrisy involved with the whole thing.”
“It turns out, it’s usually a bunch of millennials” should be the go-to excuse for anything. What happened at that party? Why is the real estate market so chaotic? Why did we go through four years of Donald Trump? “It turns out, it’s usually a bunch of millennials.” Keep in mind, elder Millennials are in their early 40s now. I’m not sure if Cox actually means Gen Z, the people in their 20s right now. Anyway, this just reads like two old farts bitching about the youths and their “cancel culture.” They have no idea what they’re actually complaining about. I hope Emmy voters ignore Cox – who is nominated in the lead actor category despite only appearing in three episodes of Succession – and vote for Kieran Culkin or Jeremy Strong!
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The day before the Emmy Award nominations came out, the Hollywood Critics Association Awards announced their nominations. Fans of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex were pleased that their Netflix series, Harry & Meghan, picked up a nomination for “Best Streaming Nonfiction Series.” I said yesterday that considering the success of the Netflix series, I did expect Harry & Meghan to pick up an Emmy nomination too. The series did not. The Sussexes were “snubbed” again, cue the Salt Island schadenfreude. “The Sussex Brand will never recover,” hurr durr.
Netflix’s megahit documentary series on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle failed to earn any Emmy nominations this morning, a snub that presumably will delight critics of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.
The six-part series Harry & Meghan directed by Liz Garbus was under consideration for Outstanding Documentary or Nonfiction Series. The Emmy oversight is particularly glaring because the series scored extraordinary numbers for Netflix, racking up the second most viewing minutes of any documentary program on the streaming platform, behind only The Tinder Swindler.
As a consolation, Harry & Meghan did earn an honor on Tuesday when it was nominated for the Hollywood Critics Association Awards in the category of Best Streaming Nonfiction Series.
Considering the Sussexes’ Netflix show is up against The 1619 Project at the HCA Awards, I would assume that Harry & Meghan was being considered in the Emmy Awards’ version of that category: “Documentary or Nonfiction Series.” The nominees in that category are: 100 Foot Wave, The 1619 Project, Dear Mama: The Saga of Afeni and Tupac Shakur, Secrets of the Elephants and The U.S. and the Holocaust. Given those nominees, I would think that Harry & Meghan simply felt a bit too… tabloid-y and unserious? Yes, of course I watched the series and I know that they spoke about serious subjects, but the larger problem still remains: the Sussexes are without industry peers and they are incapable of fitting into these categories or boxes. They’re celebrities but they’re more than that, they’re humanitarians but they do other stuff, they did a docu-series about real sh-t, but it was also part of the larger tabloid narrative around them. I guess my point is, who needs the Emmy Awards if you’re Harry and Meghan? The Emmys are probably gonna be canceled anyway.